I recently acquired a working, vintage Roland CPE-800 and VCA-800 from my
friend Jacob Graham. His obsession with early 80's Roland gear had led
him down the rabbit hole to this beautiful and interesting piece of gear. He came across it on EBAY and bought it to add
to his Roland studio (which consisted of all Roland gear at the time, nothing
newer than 1983). After a few years of
owning it, Jacob found he was not using it much and put it up in a local store
NYC music store where no one wanted it, and it sat for another year. I found out that he was selling it when he
told me that the music store asked him to come and pick up this large paper
weight that nobody wanted. I immediately
said “Oh – your actually selling that? I
will buy it!!!”
There were very few of these made and hardly any in use today, from what I can tell. There are not many references to the CPE-800
online. There are few photos. Where there is a reference, it is always a
vintage ad or someone saying how obsolete this equipment is. They could not be more wrong. People have admittedly destroyed these,
piecing them out for parts for the Jupiter 8 or TR-808 – which is a shame and
tragedy.
This is not a rant about using some obsolete equipment and trying to do
things “old school”, somehow believing that you are preserving some piece of
history in the process. Once I had heard
about this piece of gear and understood what it does, I was blown away that
something like this even exists. With a modification, I saw a potential to have one of the most versatile, stand-alone modular synthesizer control surfaces ever made.
In many ways, the technology that this product was intended for is indeed obsolete. When this product was introduced, it was intended to be used for the motion
picture industry. It would sync to SMPTE
time code. It would allow automated
volume control over 15 channels for up to 99 hours provided that it would not
run out of memory. Memory usage only
occurs when changes occur – in other words, if the levels stay the same, no
memory is used for automation. The
original list price was close to $8,000. Jacob had bought his for a small fraction of that price and relayed the same price to me.
In a conversation with someone who worked at Roland during the time of the release, it originally had a problem with the SMPTE time code where the 1’s and 0’s were reversed and it would not work with other SMPTE products but would work great with itself. This was fixed in software, but the first impression to the industry had already caused some damage and sales were low. Roland only had schematics and a user manual for this. No service manual was ever made for this product. The user manual mostly talks about using the CPE-800 with the VCA-800, but there is also several references to using it as a lighting control and putting it in“scene” mode.
In a conversation with someone who worked at Roland during the time of the release, it originally had a problem with the SMPTE time code where the 1’s and 0’s were reversed and it would not work with other SMPTE products but would work great with itself. This was fixed in software, but the first impression to the industry had already caused some damage and sales were low. Roland only had schematics and a user manual for this. No service manual was ever made for this product. The user manual mostly talks about using the CPE-800 with the VCA-800, but there is also several references to using it as a lighting control and putting it in“scene” mode.
When used in conjunction with the VCA-800, to call this a mixer would be a
false statement. Even though it looks like a mixer, there is no summing
amplifier so channels are not combined in any way. Each channel has a
single VCA, with its own input and its own output... To call this a controller is an
understatement. The board unit by itself automates CV’s (control voltages) that
span from 0 to 10 volts. This is much like the Flame knob recorder or the Modcan CV recorder except it has 15 channels instead of 2-4 channels. Although the CPE only has a fixed timebase (unlike the Modcan and Flame, where there is a variable speed), the length of the recording can be anywhere from less than a second to 99 hours! This can also be looped, paused, or restarted...
These voltages go into the VCA-800 box (shown in the photo above) to control the amplitude/volume. You can use the faders manually (and they are high qualityAlps 100mm faders!), or you can
record or playback the changes that you make over time. The faders are not motorized, but there is a
nice pair of LED’s that show if the memory value is higher or lower than where
you have the channel set. With a modification that I did, this is an amazing CV
controller, can be used with ANY modular equipment, and blows away most modern
controllers that are being made today. 15 channels can be used as level controls or
voltages, or both, to send signals anywhere in your modular patch. My modification is shown in the photo - it is the grey rack on top of the VCA-800, with a row of 15 attenuators and a row of 15 CV output jacks.
These voltages go into the VCA-800 box (shown in the photo above) to control the amplitude/volume. You can use the faders manually (and they are high quality
On a technical note, the VCA’s are DC blocked so the lowest frequency that
they pass is around 15 Hz. This cannot
pass LFO’s to other modules through the VCA-800, but you can use the voltage
outputs that I added to control VCA’s that are not DC blocked and can pass
LFO’s or other CV signals. I added
attenuators to each of the 15 voltage outputs so I can scale them down to work
with various modules. I also added another
modification where I can start and stop this with a gate signal from an analog
synthesizer – so it can be used as a 99 hour, 15 channel, arbitrary envelope
generator.
I would love to buy more of these, add my modification, then sell these as a
control voltage source or offer a modification box as a service. The problem is
to find another. Contact me if you have
one of these that you wish to sell.
Video examples of this unit in action will be posted soon. I just need to edit some footage together.
Video examples of this unit in action will be posted soon. I just need to edit some footage together.
One of these just popped up on ebay but is kinda priceyyyyyyyy
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I have one to sell
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